Net zero: Next moves for CEOs - The McKinsey Podcast Recap

Podcast: The McKinsey Podcast

Published: 2023-01-27

Duration: 1527

Guests: Anna Moore, Humayun Tai, Bruce Usher

What Happened

McKinsey partners Anna Moore and Humayun Tai addressed the duality facing leaders since the war in Ukraine, balancing long-term decarbonization with immediate energy concerns. They stressed that the transition to net zero is fraught with trade-offs, such as between decarbonization and water consumption, and between job creation and preservation.

The conversation touched on the economic calculus of net zero, with McKinsey research suggesting that $9 to $12 trillion could be created annually by the 2030s in new green value pools. Companies have a time-sensitive opportunity to invest in sustainable materials, with a projected 50-60% supply demand gap for low carbon steel by 2025.

Anna Moore highlighted capital allocation challenges for CEOs, emphasizing investors' shift towards sustainable technologies. The discussion noted $120 billion in new money for sustainable funds in the first half of the year, with ongoing capital flows to conventional technologies.

A cement company example illustrated the brown to green transition, where the management team had to decide on mergers and acquisitions, the scale of decarbonization investments, and potential self-cannibalization strategies. This reflects broader challenges companies face in navigating decarbonization.

Humayun Tai emphasized the importance of blending public and private capital for decarbonization investments, especially in the Global South. He noted the role of policy and government in supporting these investments and the regional nuances in ESG fund debates.

The 'playing offense' strategy involves making long-term investments while preserving short-term operations. Tai mentioned successful examples from traditional energy companies transitioning to clean fuels and utilities shifting from fossil to renewable energy.

The episode concluded with Bruce Usher discussing the role of investors in achieving net zero, referencing his book 'Investing in the Era of Climate Change.' He highlighted the need for $100 to $150 trillion in investment capital over the next three decades to rebuild the global economy sustainably.

Usher recommended investors take a long view, beware of greenwashing, follow industry trends, avoid businesses relying on changes in human behavior, and act early. He emphasized the interconnectedness of renewable energy sectors and the importance of coordinated growth across industries.

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